tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post4165716420032975595..comments2024-02-24T04:17:53.437-05:00Comments on Save Pleasure Island Blog: PI Update: There Is Finally Hope On The IslandSave Pleasure Islandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04366746353299639785noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-90204529526676593292013-01-27T22:15:10.814-05:002013-01-27T22:15:10.814-05:00Steven & FN, thanks for the on-going discussio...Steven & FN, thanks for the on-going discussion. The Blog published the only known photos of inside Mannequins post-closure on 1/31/10, or a little over a year after Final Night. It's possible to easily get to that article via the tree under the Blot's Flag Counter. KingBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-90036120760765321012013-01-27T10:32:25.590-05:002013-01-27T10:32:25.590-05:00Steven, good post, thanks for sharing with us read...Steven, good post, thanks for sharing with us readers. The stories of the Mannequins floor being missing is a running gag here, and the true depth of the hole underneath, I think, quoting other mysterious sources, would actually be closer to 185 feet. The number posted by the other poster was an obvious attempt to obscure the true depth and magnitude of the rotating floor and what's underneath. ;)<br /><br />The "train turntable" is a reference to the actual Pleasure Island backstory. Someone here must have a photo of the old plaque which told the story as written by WDI.<br /><br />You're right about the moving yoke light fixtures -- they are pricey! It makes sense that they would have re-deployed those to other parks due to not only their value, but also due to the fact that they eventually reach a point in their service lives where the manufacturer no longer produces replacement parts. Plus, at $8-10,000 each, they are depreciable capital assets and the whole accounting thing causes them to be tracked and managed differently from other consumables in the clubs. Disney, like any other large corporation, has a labyrinthine fixed asset tracking and lifecycle management system.<br /><br />Bummer about the stainless steel bars, sound system, etc. I'm confident that those can all be rebuilt in the same manner that the lighting systems would be. I know that any clubs which return would have to be brought up to current and modern standards and would exceed anything we knew and enjoyed there in the past. Hint to Disney: We're ready to see and support your best efforts in this regard!<br /><br />Oh, one more thing about the Mannequins rotating floor -- I don't know about the actual wheels or tires which supported the weight. I *do* know, from personal experience under the *original* floor of the Carousel of Progress at Disneyland in California, their (much larger and heavier!) floor was supported by steel wheels on circular steel railroad track and driven by large General Electric motors. I wish back then I had taken photos because there were many other interesting remnants I saw from America Sings and Carousel of Progress to be found in, around and under that structure. Had I taken photos, I'm sure they would have been extremely interesting so many years later.<br /><br />And just to maintain the now well-established tradition here on this blog: The floor in Mannequins is really gone and is being used elsewhere, turning at a very high rate of speed, to spin sugar into cotton candy. I know this is true. ;)FNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189055965642825011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-43276626434699353992013-01-27T07:47:49.547-05:002013-01-27T07:47:49.547-05:00OMG....you are all wrong. First off the buildings ...OMG....you are all wrong. First off the buildings in Pleasure Island where NEVER part of any locomotive or boat building anything. When PI was first built it was themed like all Disney creations. The story behind the island goes on about a guy named pleasure...blah blah and that the island was used to make ships in the early 1900's but later was revamped by pleasure as pleasure Island. None of it was true the plaque on the outside of the mannequins building was just part of the theme. Mannequins was no more a ship building anything than the Hollywood Tower Hotel was a real hotel. Secondly the floor is still there and no the pit isn't 50 foot. Below the rotating floor is a serious of tires that roll along the floor, much like your car tires. Only not as good, no where as good. As more weight is added to the platform the tires are pushed down and can no longer roll. This combined with Disney slowing the rotation of the platform many years back, makes the platform stop at nothing. The platform doesn't have a transmission to deal with all the extra weight. Furthermore, it was designed in the early early 90's. The dance floor is the least of the worries, they destroyed the building removing all the stainless bar equipment, and I do mean destroyed. Even worse the lights where taken to MGM and the sound system scraped. Those two systems alone are worth far more than the floor. Each moving head sells for $8000 to $10,000 each, the replacement lamp HMI575 sells for $200 each. I have worked in clubs since I was 16, and dedicated my entire life to their design and every aspect of their creation. questions email me: tiborwolfe@gmail.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083961371931389355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-27918991389528314872013-01-24T07:13:53.589-05:002013-01-24T07:13:53.589-05:00There may come a time when we see a traditional Di...There may come a time when we see a traditional Disney "ride" or "attraction" built OUTSIDE of a gated Disney theme park.FNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189055965642825011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-90546930621601082232013-01-20T07:08:18.256-05:002013-01-20T07:08:18.256-05:00I am Anonymous. I constantly argue with myself. ...<i>I am Anonymous. I constantly argue with myself. And I am <b>always</b> right.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-82101837369929665562013-01-19T10:44:52.691-05:002013-01-19T10:44:52.691-05:00Got it, sounds like I'm just stuck in a "...Got it, sounds like I'm just stuck in a "no parking" or "hellish parking" mentality. I've been of that mindset for quite a while, unfortunately, and I really do loathe parking at PI/DTD... A couple posts here have made very good points about how club crowds tend to arrive after the shopping/dining crowds have mostly left. Sounds to me that there clearly are few, if any, major impediments to bringing night life back to PI. I hereby officially request Disney to put it all back, please.FNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189055965642825011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-13901853620706111702013-01-18T22:49:47.196-05:002013-01-18T22:49:47.196-05:00There is nearly ALWAYS parking available to the we...There is nearly ALWAYS parking available to the west of Cirque. Yes, there are some peak times when even that is full, but it's very rare. Before a new parking garage is constructed, you'll see the entire DTD parking lot redone. As we all know, it's very difficult to go from one lot to the next and since the flow is all westbound, it's very difficult to go eastbound in the lots.<br /><br />Anon at 6:50pm, you remind me of a very valid point. PI nightlife began beyond 10pm when the shoppers were leaving anyway and parking opened up. Shopping and nightlife complimented each other at Downtown Disney. KingBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-38777536148062208802013-01-16T18:50:23.639-05:002013-01-16T18:50:23.639-05:00Interesting but still no excuse for not reopening ...Interesting but still no excuse for not reopening the clubs. The clubs would attract a later crowd when parking would begin to open anyway. We must not develop Stockholm Syndrome and make excuses for the complete f-up closing the clubs was. This blog exists to bring the clubs back. We must always remain focused on that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-25325365037596713902013-01-16T06:39:33.042-05:002013-01-16T06:39:33.042-05:00>...World of Color...
I agree, World of Color r...>...World of Color...<br />I agree, World of Color requires an environment which can be 100% controlled for installation and maintenance. You need to be able to drain the water completely. And you can't have watercraft running in and around the performance venue.<br /><br />But I've been hearing from others that the DTD/PI parking lots are full to capacity quite frequently, so another issue is that if you build something new there and draw new crowds you'll run into problems with parking. This is not only an issue for what is currently there but also for anything which would be built in the future. This leads me to believe that re-opening the clubs or re-theming/re-purposing the area may only happen when potential parking issues are resolved. This may be a <i>much</i> bigger factor than we realize. I think Disney recognizes that PI is an underutilized resource with great potential, but no matter how whiz-bang the concepts are, you can't have it all in the present configuration of things.<br /><br />There are definitely times when both I and my group avoid PI because we know the parking is so hellish. This has led us to discover a lot of other fun non-Disney things to do in the greater Orlando area.<br /><br />One thing is certain - the future will be very interesting when we finally get to see how and what is done to this area.<br /><br />I wish the Adventurers Club could return.FNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189055965642825011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-6027438215767511742013-01-15T19:33:46.869-05:002013-01-15T19:33:46.869-05:00>Where would World of Color fit in best? Any th...>Where would World of Color fit in best? Any thoughts?<br /><br />World of Color at DCA is located in an artificial lake. It costs money to attend the shows. WOC can't happen at Downtown Disney because DTD is free. More importantly, Village Lake is a live lake filled with fish, otters, etc. It would be difficult to operate a WOC type of event there.<br /><br />Nonetheless, prior rumors reported by the Blog did include 5 large fountains being installed in the lake. We had no details and certainly fountains could do tricks, but nothing to the extent of World of Color. KingBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-919131388785477162013-01-15T19:29:09.334-05:002013-01-15T19:29:09.334-05:00We like to humor the guy who insists the floor was...We like to humor the guy who insists the floor was removed.<br /><br />And I agree, if someone actually bought it, for what? As mentioned, there are no clubs advertising a revolving dance floor except for Amphitheatre in Tampa which has had one for years. KingBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-41069658027820100592013-01-15T09:11:02.486-05:002013-01-15T09:11:02.486-05:00The floor removal is a long-time running gag here....The floor removal is a long-time running gag here. When you think about it, who would remove the floor and leave a big hole behind? Also, no new revolving floors have been reported elsewhere, so again, this is a dumb series of comments to take seriously. So we make jokes about it. So there. Is everyone ok now? Good, I didn't think so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-6255376143544542952013-01-15T00:26:26.562-05:002013-01-15T00:26:26.562-05:00Thank you. I agree completelyThank you. I agree completelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-68966923563201503852013-01-14T07:35:02.625-05:002013-01-14T07:35:02.625-05:00The only articles published on the subject are rig...The only articles published on the subject are right here on the Blog. <br /><br />We published photos taken from the garage door area which shows the floor in there about 2 years after the club closed. <br /><br />Sometime within the past year a member of Disney Security reported to the Blog going into Mannequins when they found an unlocked door. The floor was still there.<br /><br />There is no indication that the floor was broken. It did come to a halt on the final night because of the sheer weight of everyone there that night. But it had come to a stop the night before too yet was operational for the final night. KingBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-52014539508177834052013-01-14T01:07:33.749-05:002013-01-14T01:07:33.749-05:00Please provide the link to even one legitimate art...Please provide the link to even one legitimate article written by a credible source, ie Disney, that says that the floor was moved. On another note, is there not one reader of this blog that has a friend that works for Disney that can either just open the building and go look or ask a security guard or maintenance worker to go look? This rumor needs to be put to rest. It's highly unlikely that the dance floor was removed without anyone seeing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-82821457990572740822013-01-12T16:58:36.170-05:002013-01-12T16:58:36.170-05:00The Mannequins dance floor originally WAS a turnta...The Mannequins dance floor originally WAS a turntable for steam locomotives that were used at Adam Mearriweather Pleasure's canvas factory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-25805055004364575642013-01-12T14:59:23.395-05:002013-01-12T14:59:23.395-05:00I heard from a friend of a friend and also read on...I heard from a friend of a friend and also read online in many places about what they did to the floor in Mannequins. THey moved it to the Magic Kingdom and are using it to turn around the steam trains in the back area. I think that's a great idea, to recycle and re-use, right? Too bad Mannequins now has a 43.5 foot deep hole in the middle of it where the floor used to be. Now they will never be able to turn that building into anything useful. But then I heard the hole was big and deep enough for a killer whale or dolphin show to go in, and they're really thinking about it, cuz water is so cheap and easy to find in Florida. You don't see that kind of show every day, do ya? I'd buy a ticket, heck, I'd even sit in the front row and watch the high diving acts by crazy clowns before the killer whale show starts. WOw, so cool, I can't wait...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-38751634915264415142013-01-10T22:22:59.090-05:002013-01-10T22:22:59.090-05:00This seems like very hopeful news, it's alread... This seems like very hopeful news, it's already been five years and P.I. has been pretty dead.<br /> Guys don't let it be another five years. <br /> So reopen the clubs and let people dance and party.<br /> Hopefully the new management will make that happen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-59677317425045652862013-01-10T19:53:23.502-05:002013-01-10T19:53:23.502-05:00George is awesome. Let's hope he can make some...George is awesome. Let's hope he can make some waves and kick WDW into shape (including P.I.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-28319041514691607682013-01-10T18:38:11.242-05:002013-01-10T18:38:11.242-05:00The new guy doesn't take over until February 1...The new guy doesn't take over until February 1st so let's not start a letter writing campaign just yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-19258439410727856782013-01-10T16:56:07.157-05:002013-01-10T16:56:07.157-05:00Please Bob give us addresses and or emails so we c...Please Bob give us addresses and or emails so we can respectfully request our amazing clubs be opened again!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-27378718732551401302013-01-10T16:52:09.372-05:002013-01-10T16:52:09.372-05:00Anon @ January 10, 2013 10:55 AM
would cost too mu...Anon @ January 10, 2013 10:55 AM<br />would cost too much to fix the floor in Mannequins! and to run would cost! didn't say it couldn't be fixed! <br />and Disney maintenance said it was broke on the last night! BTW! <br /><br />and AC I am sure was not making money when PI was open was just part of PI! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-75809477057436733672013-01-10T13:16:54.934-05:002013-01-10T13:16:54.934-05:00I know it's still a long shot but this is a gl...I know it's still a long shot but this is a glimmer of hope! Maybe they can still save Mannequins, Cage/8Trax at the least?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-41041554660933652992013-01-10T11:07:37.488-05:002013-01-10T11:07:37.488-05:00I think it's time for a new letter writing cam...I think it's time for a new letter writing campaign! Where is that PI questionnaire that was posted a while back?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7900984237451420547.post-74692618442702309862013-01-10T10:55:04.184-05:002013-01-10T10:55:04.184-05:00Of course they would fix the floor if there's ...Of course they would fix the floor if there's anything wrong with it. The consensus is that it is still there. It wouldn't take much to bring back Mannequins better than ever and Disney certainly has the ability to do so. We should just enjoy this news and hope the the AC will return someday possibly in another location, perhaps inside a park or maybe they will put the gates back up at PI. Either way, this is the news we've been waiting forcand the whole purpose of the blog so let's give these new execs a chance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com